Vote for the next features in Beatmaker 2

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BeatMaker 2 - INTUA

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  1. Upgrade pricing? That would be an awesome feature, especially for those who paid full price the first time and were told new features would come for their version.

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  2. “Upgrade” pricing is unwarranted; it's an entirely new app. It's no more an upgrade to BM1 than iMS-20 is an upgrade to the DS-10.

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  3. @Rob Donovan
    “Upgrade” pricing is unwarranted; it's an entirely new app.”

    True, but what about Photoshop or Cubase? (or many many others). They put up new apps every year or two, and if you purchased the previous version full price you are entitled to an upgrade price.

    And iMS-20 and DS-10 are two completely different products. But you did get a special price when you wanted to upgrade the Korg Legacy plugins collection.

    Sure, they don't “have” to do it, I just thought it would've been a nice gesture for the people who first supported them.

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  4. +1 on the Upgrade priceing is unwarranted issue. This is a new app. It is apparent the huge amount of work and development that went into making something this powerful.

    I certainly got $20 worth of use from beatmaker and find BM2 already my go to app. Especially now that you can easly paste into beatmaker and make loops with the editor.

    The first thing that comes off the top of my head that I would like would be some type of stero phaser. That would emulate a Mutron bi phase or kraut phasers. You can get similar sounds with the chorus or flanger but a phaser would be a nice addition.

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  5. @Garloo
    “+1 on the Upgrade priceing is unwarranted issue. This is a new app. It is apparent the huge amount of work and development that went into making something this powerful.”

    Again, Photoshop CS5? New powerful tools, also took huge amount of work to do, normally costs 700$, but if you bought CS2, CS3 or CS4, you can buy the upgrade for only 200$.

    Cubase 6, normally costs 499$, but you can upgrade for 99$ if you bought Cubase 4 or 5.

    .. FL Studio?, .. you pay one time 200$ and you get upgrades for life, that is hard to beat 😀

    Yeah 20$ is not that much compared to those I mentionned, but if I buy it now, BeatMaker will have cost me 40$ including the price of the first version, which I wouldn't use again because the new one is so much better. And then version 3 will come up next year.

    I feel if I really want to buy BM2, I will wait when it will be on sale.

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  6. +1 on upgrade pricing. I'm not paying $20 again. Speaking of which they are still missing features to be having a poll for “new” ones.

    – iPad support.
    – A stable application that doesn't crash.
    – Non Destructive sample editing

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  7. Upgade pricing across two separate apps is probably not possible with the iTunes store the way it works now, and even if it could I doubt Intua would do it.

    Soundfont sounds good as I can't think of a more basic way to get multi instruments from the computer in this app. Even if you have to redo the fx in the patches it would beat setting up a whole multi in the app.

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  8. There own sequencer?

    People have seriously lost their minds about the cost of software. WTF, $20 for all of those features plus the nanostudio sequencer? In your pocket? C'mon. You'll use it more than that lady gaga cd you bought on impulse for nearly the same scratch.

    Besides, iTunes does not allow paid upgrades so yell at apple, not app makers.

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  9. Upgrade pricing could mean just an introductory price of $14.99 for a week or two. Just something to show that they care instead of trying to always milk the cash cow… aka the users.

    There's no need to get all technical about it since there's obviously limitations to how the app store is set up.

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  10. You guys are off your nuts.
    Halo > Halo 2 > Halo 3 etc.
    Tiger Woods 2007 > 2008 > 2009 etc.
    I never hear anyone threaten to boycott Bethesda because an expansion for a game wasn't free.

    On a $700 investment, a discount makes sense for an update. This is not a $700 app. The development team is expected to get by on table scraps because of cheap ass skinflints? Get real. You're spoiled.

    Where I come from, this kind of protest would be embarrassing for most folks. It reminds me of a few “always partying – never holding” types I knew in high school.

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  11. @ icepulse – have you ever noticed there's only 2 real iOS devs that get this type of flack.

    1. Is amidio team
    2. Is intua

    Both were devs from the start who put out good products, but then failed to support the products or their users. Amidio still has apps that don't work with current updates yet they keep pumping out new stuff. $20 is not a lot of money, but for the majority of us it's the principle of the matter. We don't like getting our mouths burned twice no matter how good the food tastes.

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  12. I have no complaints on the price, but I wouldn't hold my breath on major BM updates either. I purchased BM1 and have no intention of dropping $20 to get fooled twice by Intua on the upgrade promises.

    The Nanostudio developers have earned my business and respect by providing continued and FREQUENT support/updates for my purchase. Intua on the other hand, presented a case study in failed customer service and marketing when they essentially abanded BM1 to focus on BM2.

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  13. How about a discount on the whole price if you don't want any of the terrible samples that come with the app ie make sample packs 'in-app' upgrades

    I've always had a problem with the NanoStudio sequencer and much preferred the one in BM1 so I vote to go back to that please

    A Master fader and more expansive routing options are +1 for me

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  14. @Icepulse
    “You guys are off your nuts.
    Halo > Halo 2 > Halo 3 etc.
    Tiger Woods 2007 > 2008 > 2009 etc. “

    What? Are you implying IOS apps are like videogames?

    I said it before, yes 20$ is not that much compared to professional software, but over a 10 year span I can easily imagine a single software like Beatmaker costing over 100$.

    Fortunately, it is something that is considered by some app creators.

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  15. @Anonymous (if that IS your real name ;))

    As I recall it, BM1 received at least (4) updates w/ in the 1st 1.5 years of its existence, each one adding stability & features to the mix.

    Look, I'm not an Intua shill. I'm just saying that we have different ideas of value. 2 years after my investment on BM1, I can't find much to bitch about. It was good, they did updates for a while, and now they've created a completely new app w/ 5x the functionality. So it's another $20. Boo hoo. I'm not rich, man, but I do NOT feel the impact of a $20 investment 2.5 years after the fact.

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  16. @johnnyg0

    Yes, I'm comparing them. And why shouldn't I? Why act like the comparison of software-to-software is so radically insane? The theory is the same.

    You're acting like I compared a Bacon, Egg and Cheese sandwich to a blue-ray player.

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  17. I can't believe how many whiny little shits are still crying about the lack of upgrade pricing. So you paid $20 for BM1 2 years ago? That's nice. BM2 is out now, it's much more advanced than BM1, and it's a totally different app. Intua doesn't owe you anything. NO developer owes you free lifetime upgrades.

    Are you people going to bitch when Apple releases the iPad 2 and expects you to pay full price for it even though you already bought the first one?

    Frankly, if $20 is too big an investment for you, maybe instead of ranting about BM2 on forums and blogs, you should be out looking for a job.

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  18. @Icepulse
    “Yes, I'm comparing them. And why shouldn't I? Why act like the comparison of software-to-software is so radically insane? The theory is the same.”

    Then why do you reject my own music-software-to-music-software comparison? Because they're not in the same price range? Do you want me to throw Reaper in the mix? (as low as 40$ gives you 2 revision upgrades). I could throw in many many other examples of software with upgrade pricing in the same price range as Beatmaker.

    Accept this fact : there are many people who offers upgrade price or introduction price, not everyone, Intua didn't, they had absolutely no obligation to do it, but it sure would've been nice. Its not about how it should be, its about how it is.

    If you're happy with BM2, I'm happy too, but I'm not buying it, not because of the pricing, but because I still prefer to use much better software on other platforms for recording and sequencing.

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  19. @Ray Gold
    “NO developer owes you free lifetime upgrades.”

    You are right, they don't owe that to us, but it sure is nice when they do give back a little love, like here : http://flstudio.image-line.com/documents/lifetimefreeupdates.html

    “I can't believe how many whiny little shits are still crying about the lack of upgrade pricing.”

    I see you lack the ability to understand the distinction between “commenting/arguing” and “crying like whiny little shits”.

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  20. @johnny

    He's right, you know. You ARE a whiny little shit, anyone who has read the comment section of this blog for any time at all knows this.

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  21. I don't have a lot of money. But I enjoy making music on my phone. I bought beatmaker 1 and loved it. Put it to great use. Nanostudio came out, and I bought that. Loved it too. Beatmaker 2 finally came out, but alas I was on the unsupported iPhone 3G.

    Finally got an iPhone4 and guess what my first app purchase was? BM2

    BM2 is well beyond an upgrade. Yes, I would have liked to save some dollars, but after spending 2 hours with the app, it is SO clear that it is worth it's own $20 price tag.

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  22. @Timothy
    “He's right, you know. You ARE a whiny little shit, anyone who has read the comment section of this blog for any time at all knows this.”

    So discussing = whining? Ok then. It must be nice to be talking with you when you don't agree.

    Now ask me why I'm still being polite with imbeciles who's only arguments are “shut up asshole”?

    Fortunately, not everyone here is like you. You can go on with the baby name calling, since obviously this is what you do best.

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  23. @Icepulse – I'm the “I have no complaints on the price” Anonymous 🙂

    I did appreciate the one big update Intua put out, but I was disappointed that they didn't craft a universal app for the ipad and just left BM1 to decay.

    Again, I totally believe that the $20 for the original beatmaker is still wonderful, but I really have doubts about the support. If a new controller is brought to market or features are introduced to iOS, I know the Nanostudio dev's will look at adding support ASAP. I just dont have that same kind of faith in Intua.

    Yes, they will deliver stability updates, and I'm sure a few features will get added, but at what point do they move all resources over to BM3?

    Honestly, I will buy beatmaker 2 not only because I'm interested to try it, but because I want to support competition between both platforms. But after spending time in both the Intua and Nanostudio forums, it is clear as day which team cares more about both its product and its customers.

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